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...both spawned by the never-ending parade of posts about how terrible Twilight is.*

1) So two major YA series hit big in the last ten years: Twilight and Harry Potter. In the early part of each series, you saw what can be charitably called low production values in terms of craft, plots that revolved around blatant wish-fulfillment, and wholesale rips of the tropes of already established subgenres. Potter is the poster child for mainstream acceptance. Twilight is excoriated regularly in newspapers, the internets, and local bookstores in reenactments of the Five Minutes' Hate.

What's the difference? What causes that?

I have my own theory, but I want to hear yours.


2) Where do people get the idea that exposing a child to a worldview or idea at all means the child will automatically agree with, adopt, and adhere to that worldview or idea?

Really, peoples. You met kids?


*Haven't read it, not gonna, no opinion on the matter.

Date: 2008-09-27 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginny-t.livejournal.com
There's too many comments to read them all, so I apologise in advance for repetition.

There's the validation effect, that says that the more often someone is exposed to something, the more likely they are to respond positively. It's something that advertising and politicians use a lot (and darned depressing).

The whole tween industry relies on malleability of young minds. Someone who's already vehemently opposed to the unhealthy relationship that's at the heart of Twilight probably won't even finish the first book. On the other hand, afaik (I also haven't and won't read it) it plays to the Disney-style fairy tale of Grand Romanceā„¢ that trumps everything, even common sense and individuality. It's a horribly unhealthy relationship, but so are most relationships in mainstream media. Stalking and romantic behaviour are frightfully similar, after all. (Which is something I think Criminal Minds is playing with lately [sorry to tangent].)

The thing that disturbs me more than the kids reading and loving it is the adults, the mothers with children eating it up like candy. It's bad candy, but they want the sugar fix, the fantasy, the escape. It rots the brain, and they should know better. Instead, they happily gobble it up as fast as they can.

As for the difference between Twilight and HP (disclaimer: haven't read one, read the other grudgingly), I think it might have to do with that fix. HP wasn't great and had some deep flaws. I found it very wanting. However, it was at least more satisfying, and to a larger demographic, than Twilight. HP at least involved some empowerment, and some of the characters worked at that. Twilight is about being rescued. HP was partly about coming together to form a team (more or less).

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