Leah, reading your post and some of the comments has cleared up some of my confusion on this matter. I didn't realize it was Rene, and I will try to not let that color my thoughts as I work through this. I have some thoughts and questions, based on a conversation on this very thing my wife and I had yesterday. Nobody needs answer them if they don't care to, but I thought I'd air them:
- if the policy says "life" then it should be life. I don't see how special treatment can come up if the board has accepted the facts - that said, I wonder that such a policy exists. I know that concoms are not the legal system, but can there not be degrees of punishment for degrees of infraction? - or perhaps not. I'm not a woman, I have not been the target of harassment, and I also know that if this goes from that to assault, it is no longer the purview of the concom, but rather the law - what do other institutions do? This actually has my wife curious, and she is going to look into what her university says. Her suspicion is there is not a life-equivalent punishment there, and likely not at work places most anywhere - at least not for first offense - all that said, fandom is its own... special case, I suspect - I witnessed something similar at WFC last year. A guy was drunk and a complete asshole. I seem to recall he's booted forever. I have no time for this guy, he's not someone I know (unlike Rene), and of course I do not know everything that he might have done, but I still wonder about the lifetime banishment scenario
I'm pleased that this is a large part of the focus now. Too many years where shit happened and it was just brushed off and the recipients just had to grit their teeth and put up with it, or else walk away silently and never go back. But I guess I need an explanation about how and why the nuclear option is invoked.
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- if the policy says "life" then it should be life. I don't see how special treatment can come up if the board has accepted the facts
- that said, I wonder that such a policy exists. I know that concoms are not the legal system, but can there not be degrees of punishment for degrees of infraction?
- or perhaps not. I'm not a woman, I have not been the target of harassment, and I also know that if this goes from that to assault, it is no longer the purview of the concom, but rather the law
- what do other institutions do? This actually has my wife curious, and she is going to look into what her university says. Her suspicion is there is not a life-equivalent punishment there, and likely not at work places most anywhere
- at least not for first offense
- all that said, fandom is its own... special case, I suspect
- I witnessed something similar at WFC last year. A guy was drunk and a complete asshole. I seem to recall he's booted forever. I have no time for this guy, he's not someone I know (unlike Rene), and of course I do not know everything that he might have done, but I still wonder about the lifetime banishment scenario
I'm pleased that this is a large part of the focus now. Too many years where shit happened and it was just brushed off and the recipients just had to grit their teeth and put up with it, or else walk away silently and never go back. But I guess I need an explanation about how and why the nuclear option is invoked.