leahbobet ([personal profile] leahbobet) wrote2010-02-03 09:59 pm

Employment, entitlement, and the arts.

All right, kids, buckle up. I'm going to ramble a bit.


[livejournal.com profile] matociquala posted last night on her workweek and how long it takes her to write a book. What this post is actually about, although it comes clearer in the comments, is another aspect of the question that spurred it: The perception of authors as overpaid, spoiled, wealthy, greedy or...maybe just indulged members of our society. The perception, in short, of art as a class of work valued less than other classes of work.

I tangle with this thing a lot.

I am a working writer. No, I am not a writer who has a novel in print (and we'll get into the hobbyist perception that goes with that another time), but I am a writer who has been writing for eatin' money since early 2003 or so, which is when I started being reliably paid for stuff. Trufax: in second year I regularly paid my phone bill with the dribs and drabs of money from poetry sales. Writing still composes a non-major, but non-trivial part of my household income: My support staff and moderation gig at the OWW helps me keep chipping away at my school debt, and Shadow Unit, while not even remotely paying for the time we put into it at this juncture, kicked me enough cash last year to cover a month's worth of groceries and (non-rent) bills.

As [livejournal.com profile] truepenny has pointed out this week it's very hard to make ends meet as a writer. So unlike Bear and Sarah, I am also the proud possessor of a full-time Dayjob with really solid benefits.

My Dayjob is in the public sector, which is another place with some class-of-work issues.

There was a point early last year, when I was still fairly new to the job and quite blissful about it (I have a truly great office full of truly awesome persons) where I got very upset about my inability to communicate to people outside government that I really liked my brand new job. Any enthusiasm I had about my work would be automagically translated into Well, must be nice to have it that good and not have to work hard. You're having fun? Is that my tax dollars at work? The base assumption was that because clearly all public servants are spoiled and lazy and sheltered by the hand of a government employer, the enjoyment I got out of my job must be from lying on the couch and eating bonbons instead of pounding steel all day like real manly men doing actual, real work. It couldn't be that I had a good boss, good co-workers, and interesting, intellectually stimulating work; it must have been that my work was not legitimate, not demanding. To this day, I quite literally cannot talk about anything fun that happens in my office -- silly water cooler stories, lunch table anecdotes, nothing -- in mixed company without getting some form of blowback. Period.

I've learned to work around and weather the thing since, but it was actually quite hurtful. I couldn't share a good thing about my life anywhere but with my most trusted friends. It was like trying to show someone a butterfly and having the thing -- and your hand -- pissed on and then set on fire.

So basically I get shafted coming and going on this one. Of the 60+ hours of work I put into an average workweek, none of it is considered valued or legitimate work outside of my various insider circles. I have one career where I have to step carefully if I want to express the most basic pride in my work, and one career where I have to step carefully if I want to utter the mildest complaint about it.

And that means I'm sort of fascinated by the psychology behind perception of work: Why and how do we decide which fields of work are more "real" than others? How have we somehow accorded legitimacy to some -- totally necessary -- functions in society and yet routinely disparage other -- totally necessary -- functions? Why do normally right-thinking people open their mouths and drop these assumptions onto the floor every day?


I think about this a lot. I tangle with it a lot.

I think it's something to do with a class of products or services that, to people without expert knowledge, seem to self-create or self-maintain; that we feel have always been there. It's to do with the nature of work where, when it's done right, the worker isn't even noticed.

Let me go into that a bit.

People get pissed off at customer service or restaurant wait service if it's obtrusive. People only notice that grocery store stockpersons exist when something's not on the shelf. People only remember the existence of the Ministry of Transportation when there's a pothole. People get pissy at subway repairs because the inherent and subtextual expectation is that while of course subways need to be fixed, the fixing of them should be invisible. We should never see it happen, or it has essentially failed.

People only notice the author in the text, like the waiter or subway repairman or stockperson, if they feel something has gone wrong.

If we do our job right, the logic goes -- and I'm not getting into whether this is right or wrong today -- the reader shouldn't even see us. One paragraph at the back of the book saying general things about our pets, maybe where we live. Standard words at the front about who made this book possible; all very much to the forms. Look at the emphasis that creates, just by inference: the important thing is the book. We, the authors, should be completely occluded, completely obscured by the text itself.

When I pull off a good story, a paragraph that crunches into someone's chest like a wrecking ball, the book's there in their vision and it's fifty feet tall, bright as noon, eating up everything and roaring like a cannonball.

I'm not.

I'm invisible.


Here's the problem with that notion of successful art -- a notion that okay, I can't really argue with. The notion of text that lives head and shoulders above its author, text that takes on a life of its own and forms a relationship with the reader that the author really has no part of is really kind of glorious. I think a lot of us crave it a bit: making something that's bigger than us.

Thing is, it gets really hard to assert the personal or financial rights of invisible people.

This is why the argument against writing fanfic of works whose authors are uncomfortable with it never gets anywhere. This is why things like arts grants, book prices, royalty statements, financial need are considered faintly distasteful topics in a lot of writing circles, or why we talk about them in lowered tones or prescreened company. This is why it's such a big deal when an author "goes nuts" and engages readers who criticize their book, their lifestyle, their looks, their person, and why that behaviour is stomped on and stigmatized so hard. This is why reactions such as that which occurred on the Kindle forum about this Amazon kerfuffle happen. To the greater reading public, authors are invisible people. We don't exist, and therefore neither do our needs.


The question becomes, then: how to create fiction that stands like a pillar of fire in someone else's brain, to not get between my fiction and its reader, and yet, keep myself firmly in existence?

That one's for you, team. I am sadly out of answers tonight.

[identity profile] txanne.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
o.O

Now I'm *really* never reading reviews by people who aren't provably not-crazy.

[identity profile] jennygadget.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
yeah. I still kept handselling Ender's Game even after I stopped buying OSC's books because it's one of those stories that lots of kids connect with and I think it has some really interesting ideas. But I was also a lot less likely to talk him up as an author and a lot more likely to try to suggest other stuff as well.

[identity profile] leahbobet.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I was pissed then, but now it's hilarious.

[identity profile] dichroic.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I am sorry to tell you that the reason I used that particular phrase is that I was quoting. From [livejournal.com profile] sartorias, yesterday, "as some of my own relatives have said, 'If YOU can do it, any monkey with a typewriter can!' " and later int he comment thread, "To be precise, the original quote was, 'Really? How much did you have to pay to get them to read that crap?' "

I don't get it either. It's not that hard to make up a plot, though harder to make up a good one. And it's not hard at all to put some words on a page - see, I just did! But you would think that it would take very little imagination to realize the size of the job involved in (physically) putting a *whole book's worth* of words on the page, not to mention all the revision. And more important, the mental side: telling that plot so it comes alive, building a world a reader can step into, making characters real, and weaving together threads of plot and subplot. I *know* I can't do all that (not without a hell of a lot of learning at the least, but I don't think the root of the matter is really in me), and it only took me about a minute of thinking to realize that.
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[identity profile] haruhiko.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've been a ~government worker~ for almost two years now, and honestly? The hardest workers I've come across are those in the public sector. Especially since here in California our state/county jobs are always underfunded (because we're overrun with a voting population that wants oodles of services without paying taxes), we're ALL chronically understaffed and we're all working with the bare minimum of people. This means that we're ALL doing the work of 1.5-2 people, for relatively low pay compared to those doing similar jobs in the private sector.

Granted I've run across slackers in my work--those people who fit the description of the "typical government worker"--but honestly? I've met those same exact slackers when I worked in the private sector. The difference is that in the private sector, they get paid more for less work.

So yeah, totally feeling you on the annoying misperception of government workers. I dare anyone tell those of us who were working 60 hours a week at full tilt for four weeks in a row during the presidential election that we're spoiled and lazy.

[identity profile] dichroic.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
I understand that last bit - I still get upset, even though I know enough not to be confused.

I *want* anyone I consider to be a good author to be fabulously wealthy, able to buy any help they need to keep the writing flowing to me. The fact that it doesn't work that way - that I can name authors I consider among the greats who are struggling financially - is a clear indicator to me that the Universe is not being run properly.

[identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Some people are assholes.

[identity profile] strayfish.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
"I think it's something to do with a class of products or services that, to people without expert knowledge, seem to self-create or self-maintain; that we feel have always been there. It's to do with the nature of work where, when it's done right, the worker isn't even noticed."

Sometimes I could eat people's faces for their comments about the worth of my job (well, soon-to-be vocation when I graduate).

I'm training to be a medical illustrator. For some reason, people can only ever fixate on one of those words, which means I'm either automatically a doctor (huh?) and I should be able to answer all of their questions about their various and sundry ailments; or, I'm a dirty, no-good artist who will probably fail at life and starve because being an artist automatically means you will never make anything of your career, ever. *SIGH*

But, wrt the quote, I have had conversations with very well-meaning people (including my boyfriend) about why there is a need for us in the first place. After all, hasn't everything anatomical been illustrated already? Why don't publishers just pay each other royalties and publish the same images over and over? Never mind actually making sure artists get paid for the re-use, or the fact that books commission new illustrations so that they will actually stand out among their competitors...

People really do seem to assume that these pictures made themselves, and additionally that they were all made like 50 years ago. People look through science textbooks and never once consider that a Real Person had to sit down and actually draw all those figures! (Never mind the fact that medical illustrator is a total misnomer and we are actually web designers, animators, programmers and illustrators all in one). But yeah, I feel you about people thinking your job is worthless. :/

Well, it's not. You're creating culture. Even if people don't remember your name over the stories you've written, what you do DOES matter, and there are people out there who know it.

(And believe me, even if my work gets published in a book or magazine, you can bet no one's going to remember my name since medical illustrators are rarely afforded the status of co-author...)

Bah. I ranted. I apologize.

[identity profile] dynix.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
I've been a reader most of my life, I would be more of a writer if I didn't understand how much work I would need to put in to it (and that energy can't be spared right now) and I'm a public sector employee. With regards to the latter, I'm rather defiant about enjoying my job, because public sector work isn't nearly as well paid as an equivalent job in the private sector. So the assumption is that its ok to be paid less because your work is for the 'greater good' and it would be selfish to ask for more. That opinion certainly ran through the work I did in the medical profession, although that was actually completely soul sucking.

Point being that I have never had anyone snark an me about where their taxes were going, who wasn't adequately shut up by pointing out that their taxes were getting a very good deal. I'm wondering though if thats a UK thing? Since everyone gets decent benefits with their job and healthcare isn't the same type of issue.


Cristalia: I can't speak for anyone else, but writer's don't feel invisible to me. In so far as invisibility goes, books always had a voice for me and the name of the author on the cover is not insignificant, since if you enjoyed that book and want to stand a better chance of enjoying another you remember that name. Livejournal for better or worse, makes it hard *not* to see you as a real person. Celebrity authors have always had good exposure, but it's more and more the case that a writer can take their own publicity into their own hands now.

You may feel invisible, but perhaps you're not quite as invisible as you feel:)

Strayfish: In terms of medical illustration, I sympathise entirely. It's especially odd when I remember back to just how much the illustrations made a difference to our understanding of the topic. My most out of date anatomy book I'll never throw away - the illustrations are too good. Is it worse to know your work is appreciated but you don't get the credit, or is it good to know your work is appreciated at least?:)

[identity profile] tithenai.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
Whoooaa, so much I want to respond to and nod at and flail over! You have exceeded your Quota of Awesome today, madame!

Quickly, because I have to go teach, and apologies for responding without reading comments, 'coz, eh, you may have had someone address this --

To this day, I quite literally cannot talk about anything fun that happens in my office -- silly water cooler stories, lunch table anecdotes, nothing -- in mixed company without getting some form of blowback. Period.

WHAT. WHAT! AUGH! I make inarticulate grr-ing noises!

Okay, but that wasn't what I was going to SAY. Which is actually:

this is FASCINATING to me, because while I totally see the culture of entitlement you're pointing out, and that impression that the civil service is the mainstay of the lazy and useless, I have been raised to aspire to it as the pinnacle of security. To work in a bookstore? In frontline tourism? In not-a-desk situations? Beneath me since I've got two degrees. ONLY an office will do, don't you know? The desk is essential to my new station in life.

And this perplexes me, because ultimately, does it mean that, in the eyes of my extended family, I'm supposed to aspire to laziness? Is that how we WIN, but getting paid to do nothing? It's just -- my mind is blown.

I do apologise for the lack of sense-making. I know I do that alot on your blog, but it's hard to think with 'splody-brains. But the dichotomy irks me.

[identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Mostly the living authors who have left the worst taste in my mouth with their personal/interpersonal behavior have not been able to keep that from their books. When the text is warped way far away from the storyline just in order to say how awesome Author's Viewpoint is and how much Thinly Disguised Opponents suck, it's a lot easier to sigh and shake my head and walk away.

Not that the world is free of problematic counterexamples, of course, but "disagree with" and "leave bad taste in my mouth" are somewhat different for me.

[identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
There was a letter to the editor in our local paper recently claiming that what was wrong with the economy in this state was the percentage of jobs dedicated to making objects was too low and everybody else was a parasite. The writer was dead serious: if you are an auto mechanic, say, or a doctor, you are a blood-sucking parasite because you do not create widgets of any kind.

So yah, people have really destructively weird ideas about work.

The guy who hung the drywall in my basement came in one Monday and told me he'd spent the weekend hanging drywall in his niece's basement for free. "I'm crazy, I guess, but I love what I do," he said. I felt the need to reassure him that I considered this sensible, not crazy, but he was seriously looking apprehensive about admitting this to someone who was paying him. Like I was going to call up the main contractor and say, "Yah, I'm going to pay you $200 less. Take it out of Rob's wages. He likes hanging drywall, so I figure the love of the work should be reward enough."

And yet maybe he should be worried, because there are people who think the same of me, of us. So.

[identity profile] raecarson.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a wonderful post. Thanks for articulating stuff I've been thinking.

I've been thinking hard about this as a quality-of-life issue...can I continue to write thanklessly AND have a job that gets little respect? Do I need the affirmation of others to feel content with my work? Or should I learn to find that intrinsinc meaning that everyone seems to spout as the higher moral calling? Bleh.

[identity profile] bogwitch64.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
(here via raecarson)

Great post. There are few lines of work that garner even less respect and affirmation from the outside world than writing; one of them is stay-at-home-parenthood.

Yeah, guess what I am.

Being both is akin to being ye old village idiot, methinks.

[identity profile] wirewalking.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm on the writermommy boat too! Solidarity, guys. It ain't easy. :(

[identity profile] monkeyman.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yow, do I know where you're coming from. And all the more because I'm trying to keep the theatre company's head above water so I'm not keeping any of the money we make yet.

The other day in my review at the DayJob™ I had my review and they asked what I wanted to be doing in five years. "I mean, I know you have this hobby thing on the side," my boss said -- and I swear, I almost walked out of his office right then. If it only paid the bills the same way, I'd rather be washing dishes.

[identity profile] monkeyman.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
PS: I hope you know how much I admire you, not only because I enjoy some of the stuff you write quite a bit, but also because you do pull off a life that includes it with such style.

[identity profile] leahbobet.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I would also regularly handsell Ender's Game, although with the caveat that things got a little weird not too long after it in the series. Regardless of OSC's politics, they don't seem to come to bear too much in that book, and its strong points outweigh its weak points enough.

[identity profile] leahbobet.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. I never realized I needed to skillet [livejournal.com profile] sartorias's relatives.

[identity profile] lisamantchev.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's almost the same for anyone who works from home. Minus the 24-hour a day on call thing. *G*

[identity profile] lisamantchev.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*tsk* You just don't want it to cut into your bon-bon eating time!

[identity profile] leahbobet.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. That's a lot to grow up under. I'm sorry for that.

[identity profile] leahbobet.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but by nature, the people who read writers' blogs are the people who are already interested enough in writers-as-people to go looking for the things. I think the reach of that action is limited in a lot of ways.

[identity profile] leahbobet.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, actually, I've noticed the same. People bust their asses in this office like I never saw in the private sector. I think it helps that there's a principle to believe in here to a certain extent, and that makes it easier to push on ahead than having the raison d'etre of your job be: "I have to do this so spoiled First World people can buy purses at twenty times the manufacturing cost from China."

[identity profile] jennygadget.livejournal.com 2010-02-04 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
true. and after thinking about a big mote, I think part of the whole "authors make tons of money for not doing much" meme partly comes from the fact that when most people do hear what a writers life is like, they are hearing about Dan Brown, Nora Roberts, John Grisham, Danielle Steel, Stephen King, etc.

However, and I may be wrong about this, but I think that teens/young adults are often searching out authors blogs/etc - even when they aren't the kinds of teens that are interested in writers specifically. This is still confined to readers, of course, but even relatively casual teen readers are more likely to serch out/stumble across authors blogs than adults are, I think. not just because they go online more anyway, but also because they are eager for spaces to discuss ideas without being dismissed as too young to have an opinion and because they crave positive adult attention and YA authors are more than happy to give it to them. I don't have any stats to back this up, just a lot of anecdotes from teens (that are not always the type to read about writing and writers) re: positive encounters with YA authors online.

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